Posted by: Andy Rice | January 29, 2008

USA’s Selection Conundrum

Yesterday I wrote about USA’s No.2 470 Women moving into the lead of the World Championships, while the No.1 nominees who will be going to the Games for USA were lying in 6th.

After today’s racing in moderate breezes on Port Philip Bay, the gulf is much wider. Erin Maxwell and Isabelle Kinsolving now hold a commanding lead going into tomorrow’s Medal Race, while Amanda Clark and Sarah Mergenthaler had a poor outing, and have fallen to 11th, just three agonising points short of the cut for the Medal Race.

Herein lies the weakness of the one-regatta, winner-takes-all Olympic trials system still favoured by US Sailing, long since abandoned by other leading sailing nations such as GBR. How many reigning 470 World Champions have been left behind, not even able to represent their nation, let alone win a medal?

A lot, by my reckoning.

When I was campaigning 470s in the early 90s, I remember Jordi Calafat and Kika Sanchez winning the 1992 Worlds just a few months before the Games, and noting at the time that this would be the first time that a reigning 470 World Champion would actually be competing at the Games. For example, Kiwis David Barnes and Hamish Willcox won three Worlds in the space of four years, leading up to Long Beach 1984, only to finish fourth (I think) in the New Zealand trials. Four years later, reigning Pre-Olympic and World Champions Nigel Buckley and Pete Newlands could only manage fourth at the British trials in Weymouth. New Zealand didn’t come close to winning a medal in 1984, and Great Britain didn’t come close in 1988.

For reasons like these have some sailing nations moved to a more subjective, selection-based system.

At times like these, with Maxwell and Kinsolving riding high (they also won the Sail Melbourne regatta in the build-up to these Worlds), US Sailing must be ruing its decision to hold to the one-week trial system. It used to serve USA so well. After all, Team USA used to be the top sailing nation by a long, long way.

But not these days. US Sailing has long been playing catch-up, and when it enjoys the sort of success that it is in Melbourne, it needs to make the most of it.

Of course, this is all assuming that winning medals is what it’s all about. A subjective, selection-based system can end up becoming very political. It also tends to discourage the have-a-go heroes who get their old 470 out of the garage, hose it down, and go to the trials in the hope of sailing the week of their lives. You can’t do that in the Skandia Team GBR system, where you need to have been on the campaign trail for at least two or three years before the Games (as even reigning Olympic Champion Shirley Robertson has found to her cost).

So, if encouraging participation in Olympic classes – as opposed to winning medals – is what US Sailing is about, then it can rest easy. Otherwise, time for a trials rethink, perhaps.

Responses

I actually generally agree with what you are saying, but if I were you Andy I would have waited to see the final results in the men before posting this article.

I think Nick and Joe are the right team for GBR for the Games, but if Nic Asher and Elliot Willis win the Worlds (again), it kind of ruins your argument doesn’t it?

Yo Andy,
We’ve had this back and forth before. But you’re playing a little fast and loose here so I’m going to call you on it. While the system is different, the Brits have already selected their Women’s 470 team as well haven’t they? So even if the U.S. had used the “much superior British system,” the team would’ve been locked in by this regatta. So how could the results of this worlds effected the selection? The answer, they wouldn’t have.
The fact is the two U.S. teams were quite even last year. I can’t remember their exact results. But it’s fair to say that if you took a couple of the big 470 events last year, and tallied the results, the teams were about tied. So then we add a final event, the Trials, and Amanda and Sarah came up huge, so they would’ve gotten the selection either way.
Congrats to Erin and Isabelle on a great couple of events. I’m really happy for them. However, the reason this result opens eyes isn’t because of the system the U.S. chose, but because of the timing. The more time you leave for preparation after the Trials, the more likely you are to get a result like this. But you’ve got to pick a team at some point, whether through jury selection or a one-event Trial.
The big question here is how much time should be left before the Olympics? Most teams seem to favor early selection, allowing the chosen sailors plenty of time to prep for the big regatta. But these results (and potentially those of the Men’s event) would seem to indicate that maybe the selection events come too early and would be better off close to the Olympics.

-Stu

Any further comment Andy?

Nasher & Elliot’s brillant performance just brings home how tough it is nowadays to get into the GBR Olympic team:
470 World Champions in two of the past three years and still not going to the games!
As Ed Wright has found to his cost, if you want the Finn berth you have to get past Ben Ainslie just to qualify.
Double Gold medallist & Yngling Worlds Bronze - Sorry not good enough Shirley….
49er Medallist & former World Champions -Nope
It is probably a minimum 6 to 8 year committment to make into the team. No wonder the results are so good!

Andy, that’s blatant pot stirring. In any case any kind of system is going to have its cases where it sucks. Like Stu said I don’t think you could have put a piece of paper between the two top US women’s teams but in the long US trials it was Clark and Mergenthaler that won. The US trials is a long enough regatta that the cream should rise to the top.

The success of the Brits team is NOT their selection system.

It is their wonderful system from top to bottom.

The issue of how to select an Olympic team is also alot different given our laws in the US - the Ted Stevens Amateur Sports Act sort of cast in stone the way teams were selected - the process can be changed, but it is not US Sailing’s call alone - it involves approval from the USOC too.

The problem in the US is hardly our Trials system - the problem is much deeper than that, and too complex to get into here in great detail.

Basically, Dean Brenner, the Chairman of the US Olympic Sailing Committee, only cares about medals right now - he has bet all his chips in that corner - and somehow did the politics to get another four year term - it is that sort of appointment that is more of a problem than the way we pick our team. We may win a couple of medals, but it won’t have alot to do with Dean Brenner - he is more of a hindrance than a help, especially in the long run.

[...] to the Olympics. The excerpt below is from sailjuiceblog.com and the original post can be found here. Erin Maxwell and Isabelle Kinsolving now hold a commanding lead going into tomorrow’s Medal [...]

Peter H brings up some valid points, but he is also not drinking the USOSC koolaid. The US needs to grow its budget to compete, and right now it is using what money they have to support the top tier of the team. With results come money, and this system is working. With the growing budget, the US is now in its second year of supporting a youth training team to help support the bottom tier.

The US is a huge country, and this is an obstacle for achieving the kind of critical mass that would really help elevate talent. What if the top sailors all lived and trained together in one area? I remember when I sailed Tornados, and we had a small group that trained in Miami, and another group that trained in Long Beach. If we were together, it would have been so much better.

Hi Andy
I thought it was good to see you in Melbourne recently.

I introduced you to the Two Ladies i am coaching, Amanda Clark and Sarah Mergenthaler !
I do not normally respond to these sort of articles and in fact it was another team I am working with that put me on to your misguided article, as I’m not keen on the gossip columns!.
Needless to say I am surprised and dissappointed in what has been written.

I 100% agree with you regarding the US trial system.
It is clearly out of date and hopfeully will be changed in the future. For the record Amanda and Sarah were not keen on it either after missing out on countback for the Athens games.

However, that was the process put in place and everyone had to deal with a one off high pressure selection.

I guess it is not important for journalists to have all the facts before they dive in, which is certain in this case.
Let me help you !

Clark and Merg have have been ahead of Maxwell and kinsolving at all US Team ranking events in the last 12 months.
They finished in Cascais only 3 places behind them.
At the Europeans 07 they finished 6th with Maxwell and Kinsolving not making gold fleet.
and at the Olympic trials in Long Beach they sailed smarter and it was not even close.

The Way Erin and Isabelle have sailed in Melboure is nothing short of amazing! my congratulations go to them both.

With reagrds to the Melboure Worlds ,Sarah and Amanda were in 6th place going into the final gold series race prior to the medal race.
They had by their own admission, been sailing a poor race, but still by my calculations in 9th OA at the 1/2 way point and pulling through when they were on the wrong end of a 90 degree left shift the race was allowed to continue and they ended the race last ! That is the reason they failed to reach the medal race.

They were obviously dissappointed to miss the medal race after sailing a good series until then and certainly do not need somebody they hardly know questioning their Olympic selection without checking the facts first !

The thing i find intresting is that both Team GBR and US sailing selection process , which are very different as we already know have exactly the same issue, ie world champions who are not going to the Games !

Amanda and Sarah are two very determined sailors who will easily bounce back from the worlds result and have learnt a lot in Melbourne. We start training again early march in Palma after a well earned rest.

Maybe we should chat about it some time over a beer , You’re buying!

cheers Bunny

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